NEW DELHI—Rubbing salt on the unhealed wounds of Sikh psyche, the Indian President Pranab Mukherjee on May 14 said that the Indian Prime Minister Indira Gandhi was convinced to her stance of ordering armed invasion into the holiest Sikh shrine Sri Harmandir Sahib in June 1984.
Speaking at the launch of a centennial commemorative volume on Indira Gandhi, Mukherjee said he had apprised Indira Gandhi about the consequences that the Mughal Emperor Ahmad Shah Abdali had to face after attacking Sri Harmandir Sahib but she was adamant on her stance to order army attack to make the sanctum sanctorum free of ‘militants’.
“As a student of history, I was afraid to do anything with the Golden Temple… I recalled (at Cabinet committee meeting) how Ahmed Shah Abdali had to face serious consequences after the Third Battle of Panipat when he did something wrong with the Golden Temple,” the President said.
He then narrated what Indira Gandhi told him: “Sometimes history demands some action to be taken which may not prove correct later on but perhaps is most relevant at that time. This decision cannot be avoided.”
That is an naive interpretation.
Learn to see differences. on how religion influences the behaviour of its followers.
If all religion teaches us to be good humans then we don’t need so many religions.
Every religion is good, every religion teaches how to become good human beings, but the politicians misuse religion to fool the public, so that they can rule. Politicians don’t have any religion, their religion is ‘kursi ‘
Your guru was only in north India , what about south and east and west India . How come they are hindu
Sikhism is an universal religion.
We have history of fighting five forces
1) Imperialists: Mughals and Britishers
2) Fascists :- As in WW -2
3) Fanatics: as in 1947 and Aurangzeb.
4) Hyper Nationalists as in 1947.
5) Rascists as against Aryans in WW-2
Lot of Eastern kings of Aum dynasty, southern
Hyderabad have been given helped by Sikhs.
YES SHIVAJI BORN BEFORE OUR GURU BUT OUR GURU SAFE HINDU / JENAU REMEMBER CHANDNI CHOWK GURU TEG BAHADUR JI AND GURU GOBIND SINGH JI AND HIS SON AND JAB 12 BAJE TU SIKH GURU / SOLDIER NE MUGLO PAR HAMLA KARKE HAJARO HINDU BAHU,BETI , MAA KO BACHAYA THA AUR TUMHE MAJAK NAJAR AATA HAI TAB MAJAK KARNA THA AGAR SARDAR NA HOTA YEH HINDU NA HOTE LATE AAYE HAI PAR ZINDGI BAHUTU KO DI HAI VO BAAT ALAG HAI KI AAB BHUL GAYE HAI
Shivaji born before your guru
We always condemn killings of innocent persons, but some Hindus distributed sweets on attack of Darbar Sahib & killing of thousands of innocent Sikh men, women & children. Many empires came & gone with the wind of time but Khalsa is always in “chardi kla” & will remain in this universe as Khalsa was created by God & Guru Sahib after preparing more than 200 years. Otherwise the people of India were cowards, spiritually weak, couldn’t stand before Babar who came to India with only 500 soldiers, India should be thankful to Guru Sahib & God not thankless people & stop enjoying killings of sikhs & beadbi of Guru Granth Sahib…….
1984 was a Trap laid by Empire to weaken Punjab by creating internal conflicts in Punjabi society .
It all started by dismantling of Ranjit Singh Kingdom and then bifurcation in 1947 and then trifurcation in 1966 under the divide and rule policy.
Other ways by which Punjab is being weakened include
3) Polluted water’s.
Short of having multiple Punjab’s all over the Universe we are a doomed..
Dharam pracharak eh Nahi kehnda ki sham tak mere sathiyan Nu Nahi chadeyaaaa te 5000 Hindu mar da gaa
It was wrong Harish all the killings which took place in Punjab of 1980-90 period.
I fully condemn all the killings which happened then.
I hope we in Punjab have learnt our lessons and are able to form a stable peaceful society based on mutual love and respect .
Jai Sri Ram
Jai Sri Kishan
Tuhade Saariyan Nalo mein atwad apni Akhan agge dekh ya hai . I born in batala and atwadi share am hinduyan Nu bus vicho kad ke marde si . Tusi saare patA Nahi kyun sach Nu man ke raziiii nahi.
Satish Sharma is HMV (His Master’s Voice), he says what the government explained to public and what his master’s tell him to say.
Sikhs never learn that Sarbat da Bhllah does not mean to close your eyes and not differenciate between enemy and enemy. The irony is those who prey for the wellbeing of everybody normally have no friends among hindus and muslims in Asia. Never ever believe that these will be on your side.
Third agency mentioned above was the one who fed and are behind the flood of narcotics in Punjab to destroy sikhs internally in India and abroad in other countries. The hindu design to incorporate sikh values to society is to ultimately water it down.
IMHO: The problem was the media, instead of telling the public the truth about the corrupt and scheming government, they decided to drip feed lies and propaganda to the people, who unfortunately are easily led and born believing in tales made up by Bollywood.
Today we know, the attack was planned years ahead, when papers were accidentally released, showing the UK government was asked to help plan it. Only an absolute fool would believe this attack (not only on Darbar Sahib but also on 40 plus other Gurdwara’s in 1984) had anything to with a few Khalistanis in one area.
Finally, I am of the belief all the Government of 1984 and also those to date in India are guilty / complicit in the genocide of 1984, by even 30 plus years on, not accepting or conceding to the truth, the fact the perpetrators are still around today, for me; proves they are all guilty of the crime. I have no doubt one day, history will not only judge these criminals as such, but also hold the so called “Judiciary” to date of being anything but that….
Totally agree with you Hardeep Singh – the then government and now has forgotton the history of Khalsa…… These dictators are here today gone tomorrow – Khalsa Waheguru di Fauj remains for ever and ever…
How is President rubbing salt on Sikhs? He is merely stating what Indira was thinking- revealing that she was not listening and he advised against it. Please revise your description
Khalsa never kills any innocent person, it was ‘Teesri agency’ created by Indira Gandhi who planned everything to kill sikhs & teach them a lesson to stand against injustices by Indian government since 1947. But she forget the history of sikhs. Khalsa is created with the will of God to help the weaker & fight against injustice & defend the region, not only their but of others also.
Harish sharma , bro jinna nu tuhi antakwadi keh rhe ho ki tusi mennu koi ikk crime dass sakde o jide krke by law he has been declared a terrorist …aur jedi pakistan di gal krde o onna to 3 wars ch sikh community ne hindu nation nu bachaya mughals to bachaya vakhra te osse cummunity de holy place te inni army use krni jinni ki international war ch v nai hundi esdi justification nai ho skdi veere ..theese all was well planned pehla punjab de tukde kro fer bachya kuchya v barbaad kro ……
Harish Sharma I would like to update you that they were not terrorists. They were the only one who saved hindus mother and sisters. Dharam ki Raksha karne wale agar terrorists hote hai and toh tumhara RSS sabse bada terrorists group Hua. Itihaas gawah hai ki sikhon ne is desh ko aur hindu ko bachane ke liye kya kya kurbani di hain. Isliye salute karna aaj ke baad jab bhi kisi Sikh se milo. Jai hind
Harish Sharma Ji, Bhindrawale te ohna de sathiyan ne kehrhe katal kite si? Oh tan sirf dharam parcharak c
Te Asin apne lok Katal hunde dekhade rahiye
O harish chander de putra, No country or sikhs have bought these theories, general dwyer was another one who tried to bring such theories. Sant Jarnail singh is a hero and Indira and Vaidya are devil of sikh history, where did you get this information, announcement of Khalistan or any other country is made every day but Pakistan never came . Name of Pakistan only appears to justify the heinous crime of Indira and army. Darbar sahib complex is built on less than ten acres and there was no ban for any one’s entry. Why then army was needed, why could not they just few thousands of intelligence people in civil clothes. i can only see one reason, India and Indira wanted to teach Sikhs a lesson for continuously speaking against suppression, for morcha against emergency , for punjabi suba morcha and for morcha of waters and other demands(dharam yudh) and Hindus were frequent visitors of sant Jarnail singh, many was helped by him.
harish sharma, just as non Sikhs as Indira HAS NO RIGHT MEDDLING IN DARBAR SAHIB AFFAIRS, REGARDLESS OF WHO TAKES/ TOOK REFUGE THERE, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT BEING ON SIKH WEBSITE DISCUSSING SIKH ISSUES, BECAUSE YOUR CONCERN IS ONLY YOUR SELFISH INDIAN GAIN, whereas who you refer to as atwadi ARE REJOICING IN SACHKHAND!
WHERE ARE YOU GOING IN AFTERLIFE, IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE CONCERNED WITH!
Indra Gandhi wasn’t killed because she did nothing wrong! The stories you are spreading in your comment above are propoganda which have recently started to be spread by the Indian Govt and it’s agents. That too 30+ year after the facts. Why don’t you comment on how many extra judiciary killings took place of innocent Sikh young men in fake encounters? Your courageous government wiped a whole generation of young Sikh men. Not to men mention the rape, torture and killing of Sikhs in the Delhi riots. I don’t support the Khalistanis, but I sure as hell don’t like the Indian government any better!
That is the true…. we can accept if two persons killed her so they could be panish them only so why they panish to innocent sikh people…. as we all knows Nathuram killed to mahatma gandhi and nathuram was hindu so why they didn’t panish to all hindus…..
She did nothing wrong , next day khalistaniyan ne punjab Nu Khalistan koshit kar dena si . Te Pakistan ne is Nu manta de Deni si . Te Pakistan di fauz punjab vich enter ho jani si . Te punjab police ne usnu control Nahi si kar sakna . Pakistan ne India naal Ohi game play Karni si jehdi India ne Pakistan naal Bangladesh bana ke kiti si . Indira Gandhi ne strong step lita . Je atwadiyan Nu sharam Hundi te oh golden temple kyun jaa ke bethe . Ene bahadur si bahar aa ke Larde . Uhna Nu pata si ki Indian army je ethe attack kita te phir Sikh Indian govt de Khilaf ho Jaan ge . Te ohna da masla Hal ho Jaye gaa . Je Indira Gandhi attack naa kardi te bas Beth ke Dekhdi rehndi ki eh atwadi lokan Nu Mari Jaan , te ethe hai Khalistan banan dendi . Oh battle Jit gayi te eh atwadi hang haar . That is end of story
Kora jhootha, bilkul bakwas likha hai.hai koe sabut .
YES YOU ARE RIGHT BROTHER BUT KUCH TERRORIST NU PAKDAN VASTE KI AA THIK HAL C JO TERRORIST NAHI C O KYU MAREGE KYUNKI O SIKH C NAHI 1984 DI PALIANING LONDON BAHUT PEHLA HO CHUKI C BECAUSE PUNJAB TE APNI SARKAR BANAAN VASTE FIRST READ FULL STORY 1984 BLUE STAR THAN SO SHE DID NOTHING WRONG YOU HAVE NOT FULL INFORMATION BUT GREAT OPINION SIKH TABI YAAD ATE HAI JAB MARNE KE LIYA KOI NA AAGE AYE DON’T FORGET SIKH BECAUSE SIKH HAI TU TABI HINDUSTAN BANA HAI ( EK IPS OFFICER KE PAPER ME QUESTION PUCHA GYA THA SIKH NA HOTE TU KYA HOTA THAN HE ANSWER NOW I THIS IS TIME I GIVE ANSWER ANOTHER LANGUAGE ( TERRORIST KU PAKDAN VASTE BAHUT SARE TARIKE C BUT NAHI KITA AUR HAI JIS TERRORIST DI GAL KAR RAHE HO UNA DE VICHO MAXIMUM PERSON DI KOI FIR REGISTERED NAHI PURE INDIA VICH ITS AMAZING NA ? TARIKE BAHUT C BUT HAAL EK C ATTACK GOLDEN TEMPLE
Question is if Mr Mukherjee knew what Indira Gandhi was doing is wrong then what has he done to correct the mistake ?answer is nothing.
The only militants in Darbar Sahib 1984, is the tyrant indian govt and army, and trying to justify dishonoring Sikh’s most sacred shrine, will be determined by Dharam Raj himself in afterlife, and then those who committed atrocities will know who the militants are, as indira and rajiv know, when too late to repent, as reminded in Salok Mahla 9