Gurdwara Booze Party Busted

Coventry, UK—On Saturday 18th August, a protest took place outside a Gurdwara owned and managed community hall in Coventry after the wider Sikh community were notified that the consumption of meat and alcohol as well as other anti-Sikh activities were going to take place there that evening in the Gurdwara owned premises.

The Ramgarhia Gurdwara, Community College & Family Centre was the venue for the Indian Worker’s Association (IWA) to hold a party to celebrate Indian “independence” day. Dignitaries from Coventry, including the Lord Mayor Councillor Tim Sawdon, as well as other guests were invited for the celebratory party. Members of the Ramgarhia Gurdwara Management Committee were also present at the party, however we have received information from one of our sources that the President of the Ramgarhia Gurdwara disagreed with the party and therefore did not attend.

 

A Notice inside the Hall clearly showing that it is owned and managed by the Ramgarhia Gurdwara.

Despite the well publicised and clear ban from Akal Takht Sahib, the Sikhs’ Highest Seat of Authority in Amritsar (India) that no meat, alcohol, non-religious music or any other anti-Sikh activities can take place or be promoted on any Gurdwara owned property, Ramgarhia Gurdwara Coventry thought it was permissible to celebrate India’s independence day in a way that violates and disrespects the Sikh faith.

One community member said, “It is like a Muslim celebrating a party in a Mosque with pork, alcohol and gambling. Any law abiding citizen with the slightest common sense would know that it out of order and an attack on their religious beliefs.

“Sikhs who protest against the abuse of their sacred place of worship are called hardliners by the media but we are upkeeping the sanctity of our places of worship. We’re not saying people cannot hold these parties, rather that they should not do them in places of religion.”

Attempting to avoid confrontation, the Sikh Sangat arrived at the Gurdwara hall at 6pm, before the official start time. When they arrived, the organisers were setting up the hall for the party. The Sikh Sangat found crates of alcohol in the Gurdwara owned premises, meat and a DJ playing Bhangra music very loudly. The Sikh Sangat were successful in stopping the deliveries of more alcohol and meat into the Gurdwara property.

Councillor Ram Lakha (Labour: Binley and Willenhall), and secretary of the IWA, claimed in the Coventry Telegraph newspaper that the party which was held with the consent of the Ramgarhia Gurdwara management committee had no meat or alcohol served there. However, eyewitnesses and photographs from the party clearly show crates of alcohol.

Alcohol discovered in the Gurdwara hall
The party organisers holding crates of alcohol inside the Gurdwara premises

For approximately 2 hours the peaceful Sikh protestors attempted to engage in talks with the 15 or so organisers and invitees of the party to explain in a calm manner that meat, alcohol and Bhangra music is not allowed in accordance to Gurmat and the Akal Takht Sahib at any Gurdwara owned buildings. However, the party goers refused to go as they said they had paid the Gurdwara Sahib money for holding a party.

Around 7.30pm the Police was called in. They listened to both groups and decided that the party should not take place as they even knew that is clearly not allowed in the Sikh religion. They told the party goers which by that time numbered to about 100 people that the party shall not take place and attempted to escort them off the premises. Whilst leaving, they were abusive and refused to go. It took one hour for all the party goers to be removed from the Gurdwara premises despite being repeatedly asked by the Police.

As the party goers were removed from the Gurdwara hall by the Police a handful of trouble-makers from the party began verbal abuse and showed aggressive behaviour against the Sikh Sangat. Some of the party goers even shouted “Terrorist” and “Taliban” at the Sikh protesters.

One protestor, who asked not to be named, said, “The people attending the party swore at us and shouted ‘Khalistan Murdabad’ (Death to Khalistan), “Khalsa Raaj Murdabad” whilst we were peacefully protesting.”

He added, “We co-operated with the police and made sure the protest was peaceful despite acts of provocation on the other side. There were no acts of violence or any arrests.”

Accusations have been made by Councillor Ram Lakha that the Sikh protestors removed the British flag from the Gurdwara Hall, which is not backed with any proof. Neither the Police or the photographs we have received back this up. The only flag removed from the Gurdwara hall was the Indian flag because many in the Sikh community across the world feel that India has let down the Sikh community and denied it justice and human rights.

After a stand off with peaceful protestors and co-operation with the local Police, by 8.30pm the party was forced to close down despite an angry mob who wanted the party to continue irrespective of sacrilege and disrespect of the Sikh faith.

Supt Ron Winch, for Coventry Police, said, “We were made aware of plans for a peaceful demonstration on Saturday evening by members of the Sikh community. Officers monitored the situation and were committed to supporting and facilitating a lawful, peaceful protest.

“Sufficient resources were available to ensure public safety was maintained and although tensions were high, there were no criminal offences committed.

“I am confident that our response was proportionate and we are continuing to liaise with representatives from the Ramgarhia Gurdwara in order to establish whether there is anything that can be learned from the incident should a similar protest happen again.”

15th August is a dark day in Sikh history because it is the day that the Sikh nation lost Nanakana Sahib (the birthplace of Guru Nanak Sahib), Panja Sahib, Guru Arjan Dev Ji’s Shaheedi place, Kartarpur Sahib and so many more historic places and Gurdwaras with more than half of Punjab.

Editor’s Note:

Sikhs across the world are appalled at the violation of Sikh principles at this Gurdwara. Sikh principles prohibit the use of alcohol, drugs, intoxicants, meat, and inappropriate music. Sikhs view every Gurdwara as a beacon of these principles and have historically protested when Gurdwara committees have violated these principles in an attempt to generate revenue.  Editors at Sikh24 view peaceful protests to uphold Sikh principles as a necessary step to prevent the commercialization of Sikhism and hope that Gurdwaras worldwide will redouble efforts to promote Sikh values.

 

Sikh24 Editors can be reached at editors@sikh24.com

44 COMMENTS

    • “15th August is a dark day in Sikh history because it is the day that the Sikh nation lost Nanakana Sahib (the birthplace of Guru Nanak Sahib), Panja Sahib, Guru Arjan Dev Ji’s Shaheedi place, Kartarpur Sahib and so many more historic places and Gurdwaras with more than half of Panjab.”

      sikh nation lost punjab? Punjab is 40% hindu. why do some sikhs think that they have a monopoly on punjab and punjabi heritage?

      • Vikram stop buying into Govt propaganda, we Sikhs intend Punjab to be as it always was, open to all, but where Sikhi is protected rather than under threat. The Sikh raj under Ranjit Singh was the first truly secular rule, read up you might learn something :D

  1. These demons who consume meat and drink alcohol till they are plastered and then look at young girls dancing to bhangra mysic with evil intentions will be stopped from continuing with this unacceptable behaviour in gurdwara owned properties.
    They are not sikhs but living proof they are paid people of RSS, shiv sena racist Hindu organisations.
    They are testing us here and in Punjab to see what the sikhs have.
    We will stop at nothing to uphold the sanctity of our guru kars if it means jails then let it so be.

  2. Another daily mail style read from the mighty sikhnews24. Great journalism (not). You could’ve picked from any number of halls connected to Gurdwaras

    • Shut up you moron… there’s liquor there, what more do you need? a stip pole? then will you stop yapping your mouth? obviously, you are not a sikh haha (faker trying to create proganda) how do you sleep at night?

  3. Well done Sikh24.com!

    ‘Mr. Singh’, if you know of any other gurdwaras who have halls and are planning any parties which violate Gurmat with meat, alcohol, dancing and lured music them please let Sikh24.com and the rest of the Sikh Sangat know so that we can also put a stop to them.

    Massa Rangarr did the same beadbi and look what happened to him. Today so called Sikhs are committing the same paap.

    People come to the Gurdwara to get their paap forgiven. however where can those people go to get forgiveness who commit paap inside the Gurdwara????

  4. ਸਚੀ ਤੇਰੀ ਕੁਦਰਤਿ ਸਚੇ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹ ॥True is Your almighty creative power, True King.
    Vaheguroo rakha UK Sikh Panth nu

  5. This is again a culture thing, it appears all Gudwara which have a caste association, appear to be making up their own rules.

    I had a meeting with commitee members of Ram Gharia in Birmingham, they all were meat and alcohol drinkers.

    The Gurdwara commitee’s need reform.

    WGJKK WGJGF

  6. Reading this story makes me very sad and Angry. Who are these elected people who are supposed to be representing our Sangat and why are they making these decisions. I am second generation here in the UK. I think it time we have a commitee spring and hold these guys to account. Massive shame on them.
    Mr Singh August 21, 2012 7:36 pm – Shut up.
    A Singh – fair point, but as stated, our religion is not militant, and what people do outside places of worship is based on choice.

  7. If people want to to consume alchohol and meat it their choice. All we ask for is the Sanctity of our Gurdwarai (places of worship) to be upheld. Just go and have your parties elsewhere!

  8. I agree that the protesters had a good reason to stop the use if alcohol and meat being served in the gurdwara owned and managed premises. However I disagree that the Indian flag should have be removed, this is now a political stance not religious… By doing this it does not help the protesters religious objectives which is the reason of this protest.
    Does the Akal takt commend the use of Indian flags in gurdwara..?

  9. I think what people fail to realise is that this is a story from the point of view of Sikh24, I am sure the party organisers would tell a different side to the story.

    The main thing you need to take away from this is that this protest brought shame to Sikhs. If you really wanted to stop this party you could have approached the organisers earlier rather than make a big show for all other too see.

    Truthfully I think you will always have split view over this, but really think it needs to be tackled in a different way.

  10. if the religion does not practice what it preaches it becomes a joke. How many mandir mosques allow drinking or anything contrary to their faith.Gurdwaras have become punjabi playgrounds more punjabi culture less sikhi

  11. Thank you for publishing the incident of Sikh Religious Place Protection and faith of Law abiding and hard working honest Sikhs. This will be wake up call for other dedicated Sikhs as these type of incidents happening Worldwide Sikh Gurdwaras/Temples. Gurdwara management most of the members are acting as Masha Ranghar, Kaudda Rakash, Wali Kandhari and Sajjan Thugs. The Sikh Gurdwaras/ Temples are plateform for business, smuggling and political promotions. Most of Sikhs Thugs have come out with false oaths, fabricated papers, fraudulent police verifications and cheating the LAWS. Many have changed their own names and respective parents. How we can expect any respect for Gurus as such type of Sikhs have zero value and false faith of Sikh religion hence Sikhs are getting degraded Worldwide.

  12. WOW GOOD COMBINATION OF ALCHOL WITH SIKHI. SIKHISM IS TAKEN OVER BY JATTS AND JATTS LOVE WHISKY AND MURGA. GURU NANAK SAID I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim. HE WOULD SAY I AM NOT SIKH IF SIKHI EXIST AT THAT TIME. HE WAS A MAN OF GOD. AND NOWDAYS SIKHS ARE MAN OF MONEY AND POWER. GURUDWARAS TOOK BY JATTS ALL OVER THE WORLD FIGHING EACH OTHER. UNFORTUNATLY SIKHISM, WHERE THERE WAS NOT CASTE BARRIER HAVE MORE CASTE RELATED WORSHIP PLACES. BY READING ORIGIN OF SIKHISM I FOUND HOW ONE RELIGION GET CREATED FROM ANOTHER. AS GURU NANAK WAS BORN FROM A HINDU WOMB.

    • EVIDENTLY SUNNY YOUR A RAVIDASSIA ANTI-SIKH INDIVIDUAL WHO HATES SIKHS AND HATES JATTS THE MOST. I’M NOT A JATT BUT IVE SEEN INCREASINGLY RACIST RAVIDASSIA’S WHO BECOME SO SHAMELESS THEY ATTACKING SIKHISM, THE VERY FAITH THAT GIVES THEM RESPECT AND GIVING BHAGAT RAVIDASS RESPECT BY INCLUDING HIS HYMNS IN THE GURBANI.

      RAVIDASSIA ARE SO SHAMELESS AND ANIMAL LIKE THAT THEY THINK DRINKING ALCOHOL AND EATING MEAT IN A GURDWARA OF ALL PLACES IS OK. THEY THINK WORSHIPPING BHAGAT RAVI DAS STATUE IS OK TOO AND CALLING HIM GOD IS FINE. HOW LOW CAN RAVIDASSIA’S GET???….

      FIX UP

      • SO IS IT OK TOO WORSHIP A BOOK THN. guru nanak was against any kind of murti puja and you started your own. they all jatt ramgariha my friend have look or go yourself there. GURU GRANTH SAHIB NOT GAVE RESPECT TO ALL GURUS THEY STOLEN BANI OF OTHER GURUS AND CREATED THERE OWN AND THAN CALLING THAT GURU WHAT A SHAME. WHATEVER
        TRUTH IS THAT GURU NANAK WAS BORN FROM A HINDU WOMB BY A HINDU FATHER.
        AND ALL SIKHS HAVE HINDU BLOOD IN THERE VIENS. DO A DNA TEST IT WILL PROVE EVERYTHING.

      • HOW LOW SIKHS CAN GET. MUSLIM RAPING THERE WOMENS INSIDE GURUDWRAS AND THEY STILL WANT TO SUPPORT MUSLIMS AGAINST EDL. HAVE SOME SELF RESPECT .
        I KNOW BECUASE MUSLIM SUPERMARKETS GIVE MONEY IN GURUDWARAS THAT MIGHT BE THE REASON YOU LET THEM DO THAT

  13. Sunny it’s unfortunate that you have this clouded knowledge…in your last post you say “ask your Dad if you don’t know”…you shouldn’t be asking anyone but reading the unbiased information out there yourself. I’m not sure but there was a guy who was with the EDL and claimed to be Sikh but I think they even threw him out. He had a personal vendetta because his sister was with a muslim. Firstly if you have not taken Amrit then you are not a true Sikh of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Ji. Secondly, Baba Sheik Fareed, Bhagat Kabir, Bhagat Ravidaas and all Guru’s were all high energies that came from the primal source which people call God, Allah, Bhagwan and Waheguru. As it was the culture of Hindu’s, in particular Bhramins, who did not even allow people they saw as low caste to drink water from the Mandir. You seem to be obsessed with the fact that Guru Nanak Dev Ji was born to a Hindu family…but who has ever disputed this? Guru Nanak Dev Ji was against the superstitions and fear created by superior members of the Hindu religious order…they did this to keep people controlled. You say that worship of the Guru Granth Sahib Ji is similar to statue worship however you fail to realise that Guru Nanak Dev Ji predicted the coming of all energies from Waheguru and especially the energy of Guru Gobind Singh Ji who passed his supreme energy into the Guru Granth Sahib Ji. As one Guru passed his pure energy onto another until Guru Gobind Singh Ji passed it to the Guru Granth Sahib Ji and said not to worship any man after this because they knew that in this time of Kalyug (the dark age) there will be no pure enough energy within human form. All answers are within the Guru Granth Sahib Ji in terms of how to live your life. You then say that “they” stole the bani of other Guru’s, now stealing would mean not giving them credit…however the Guru Granth Sahib Ji gives reference to all Bhagats and Gurus and quotes them. It is the most comprehensive compilation of all pure knowledge…it has been put together for all to share. Now your anger and venom seems to come from what people have told you brother…this will only lower your own positive energy. You say that all the people in the Gurdwara are Jatt or Ramgarhia but if you went to a Gurdwara do you think anyone would tell you to leave? I have taken my Muslim, Black and White friends all to the Gurdwara throughout my life and never are we stopped. You also say that all Sikhs have Hindu blood…but a DNA test would prove that we all came from the Nile region in Africa before the movement of people. If your so stongly against Sikhism..at least know that it was the formation of Khalsa that stopped the progress of the Mughal armies…India would have become Muslim by force under the rule of Aurangzeb. I will put it to you that Sikhism embraces all pure, logical and peaceful teachings whether they are Jewish,Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or Hindu. Sikhism does not discriminate but you are confusing the people with the religion..Sikhism does not steal knowledge and claim it for itself, it makes sure knowledge is remembered and shared for all. Bhagat Ravidaas was an energy from God but it was the Hindu culture that did not recognise his equality because of their discrimination against lower castes. Also the Panj Piaray (5 Beloved ones) to represent the first Vaisakhi were from all different castes…people will always be rascist,ignorant, jealous ,proud, greedy, lustful, angry and attached, this is why we are human…but the teachings of the Guru’s and all other energies of God will help us get rid of these demons inside us…so that we may join with God’s energy if it is our destiny. Take care brother and be calm…attacking religions or people will only draw negative energy to yourself. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

  14. There is a Shabad by Guru Amar Dass Ji in Sir Guru Granth Sahib
    “Maanas bharia aania maanas bharia aaye,
    Jit peete mut dur howe,barl pawe wich aaye,
    Apna paraya naa pachanhi,khasmo dhake khaye,
    Jit peete khasam veesre,dargah mile sajai,
    Jhootha mudd mool naa peechi je ka par wasaiye

    Nanak nadri sach mudd payeey,Satguru milia jis aaye
    Sada Sahib ke rang rahe,mehli ke paawe thao

    First line curses meat filling in alraedy meat filled body.
    Other lines describe that we are turned out from His dargah by drinking and are hukam for not drinking even if someone kills us for not drinking. Gurji refers to true wine of Glimpse of the Satguru which provides abode in His mansion/dargah.Order is order .Shameful for Ramgariahs who are known for cow protection.
    A true Sikh is puerly vegetarain and abstains from alcholic drinks and intoxicants.

  15. The get-together was organized by IWA, which is well-respected by Indian community in the UK. I am not sure whether alcohol was brought at the venue, but even for argument sake if we agree that, the venue was Ramgharia Community Centre and not a Gurdwara? My personal opinion is alcohol should not be brought in to celebrate Indian Independence day. That said, what is the issue in alcohol consumption at a community hall? Surely this was allowed by the Gurdwara committee for years, and they never opposed those who hired the hall for marriages and other meetings and consumed alcohol at the premises?

    Coventry Telegraph reported that Coun Ram Lakha (Lab, Binley and Willenhall), and secretary of the IWA, said protesters tore down the British and Indian flags at the centre and ordered guests to leave, despite assurances that no meat and alcohol would be served.

    Indian flag was “removed” from the venue, because “many in the Sikh community across the world feel that India has let down the Sikh community and denied it justice and human rights.”

    This statement is one of the most blatant lies against India and it’s citizens. It could be said only by those who want to create communal tension and unrest in India; it could be muttered only by those who are ignorant and never had the opportunity to feel India’s pride in “unity in diversity”. It could only come out of the jealous minds that could not withstand the solidarity and togetherness of Indians, whether they are from North, East, West or South parts of India.

    Sikhs are one of the most revered warriors and well-respected community in India. The current Prime Minister of India is from Sikh community, along with a vast number of highly respected politicians, Government officials, sports personalities and scientists. I do not understand how Sikhs are side-lined in India?

    Which true Indian / Sikh would allow Indian flag to be humiliated, that too on Independence day? What is the real hidden motive in disturbing Indian independence celebration, which is respected and participated by British politicians themselves? Hundreds of thousands from Sikh community fought and died to win independence for India. At least one should have shown respect for those freedom fighters before humiliating the Indian flag and its independence day.

    Indians don’t have to travel far to see and experience an example of failed state which is based on religion; they just have to look to the north-west border.

    India operates in a federal way, with people of different caste, creed, culture and religion work together towards the prosperity of the whole country. If Tamilian, Sikh, Bengali, Muslim, Hindu, Rajput and various others who follow different cultures and religion ask of a separate country, what is the point of having a Federal state? How strong will each of these smaller countries be? How much money and energy will these small countries spend on military, science, education and policing? What is the ultimate benefit of having different countries based on religion?

    My honest questions are not to provoke anyone’s sentiments – they are valid questions which need proper answers.

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    • Well said.

      Unfortunately i don’t think you will get answers on this site based on the treads so far.

      The simple fact is look how the photos are arranged on the story, they first show a photo of the temple itself, then it shows photos of the inside of the community centre…. hummm…. little dose it state that there are two spate buildings about a ¼ of a mile apart.

      A stories should be based on fact not feelings.

      If the people who wrote this stories had their own Sikh country can you imagine the amount of tension there would be, they can’t even stop a simple party without making a show of themselves.

  16. POSTIVE ENERGY I THINK YOU LIVED WHOLE YOUR LIFE IN WESTERN COUNTRIES AND DONT KNOW WHAT GOES IN PUNJAB.

    you know my friend it seems you live in some dreamland.
    if there were no issue with caste in gurudwaras then there wouldn’t be two gurudwaras in a village. ask someone in any village that you want to go to gurudwara. he will reply jatta da yaan chamara da?.
    the problem is hindus follwed whatever was wrriten in there vedas.
    but sikhs dont even follow what there gurus told them too. what is the meaning of a sikh religion if nobody want follow those instructions by gurus.
    5 pyare are show off.
    sikhism does discriminate. guru gobind recruited hindu Rajputs and Kshatriyas to confront muslim kings. so you argument that sikhs saved hinduism failed.
    HINDUISM ALWAYS HAD RELIGIOUS TOLRENCE OTHERWISE YOU WONT EVEN EXISTED. NO BUDHISM, JANNISM AND OTHER RELIGION EXISTED. YOU HAVE SET EXAMPLE OTHER SIDE OF THE BORDER.
    YOU ARE LUCKY ENOUGH GURU NANAK WAS BORN IN HINDU FAMILY.
    IF HE BORN TO MUSLIM YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO HIM.

    • Buddhism thrives in every country EXCEPT India, despite India being the birthplace of Buddhism. It was driven out by Brahmins in an extremely violent manner and most of the relics and roots of the religion were destroyed or assimilated into the Hindu faith. If you feel that is a history of tolerance then one of us is deluded.
      Guru Nanak Ji also spent ten years in Mecca, he never rejected the faith, only the rituals. He famously quoted that he was neither a Hindu or Muslim but a Sikh. The Sikh faith is monotheistic, one god and no avatars – period. Finally, the hukumnama asks for no consumption of meat or alcohol in any Gurdwara owned premises, this extends beyond the gurdwara itself. I am not with the idea of pulling the Indian flag down, our gurus and shaheeds such as Bhagat Singh died in the struggle for India, Sikhs should be proud of their contribution and we should be proud to be able to walk the same land as our Guru’s under the flag. As education spreads and people start worshipping money, right wing religion (sorry but it is the only way I can describe it) will disappear. We are only 60 years into independence and it will take a couple of more generations before the archaic religous zealots will give way to a more understanding and unified India. Until then, try not to kill each other.

  17. what does it mean anti sikh?
    very few sikhs are vegetarian and non alcholic.So whoever eats meat must be stripped of the title of singh.I believe sgpc need to make law that only baptized person will be allowed to carry singh or kaur.
    sikh24 is hiding something in this news.

  18. Wethec…clearly your either very misguided or pro congress…

    You quoted….” Indian flag was “removed” from the venue, because “many in the Sikh community across the world feel that India has let down the Sikh community and denied it justice and human rights.”

    This statement is one of the most blatant lies against India and it’s citizens. It could be said only by those who want to create communal tension and unrest in India; it could be muttered only by those who are ignorant and never had the opportunity to feel India’s pride in “unity in diversity”. It could only come out of the jealous minds that could not withstand the solidarity and togetherness of Indians, whether they are from North, East, West or South parts of India.”

    Now do you want to explain why Buddhists, Jains and Sikhs amongst other groups are NOT recognised in the Indian constitution…instead the Indian constitution claims Sikhs are “long haired hindus”…

    Do you also want to explain, why until this day the murderers, rapists, looters, arsonists of the 1984 Anti-Sikh Pogroms have not been arrested or held accountable in court for their crimes…despite the mountains of evidence and eye-witness accounts.

    Why is it India is the only country to have changed recognised international law to launch a large scale military attack on a place of worship to remove a handful of persons…at a time when it was known the location would be full of innocent civilians ??

    Open your eyes,,.India is no democracy..it’s the worlds biggest farce…

  19. This site makes me laugh.

    Sunny calm down. Mate just be happy with yourself. At the end of the day Sikhism was never meant to be a religion but a way of life. Some people on this site have forgotten that.

    I myself am a Sikh, I use Singh in my name an i will not stop. I personally eat meat (but not halal), drink and cut my beard and I don’t think that I am doing anything wrong. I believe that you must be happy and truthful within…. all because you look the part and act the part doesn’t make you better than anybody else.

    Respect your brothers and sisters, may they be hindu, muslin or christian. There is only one god but there are many ways of reaching him or her.

    Remember you can’t hide anything from God.

  20. I know it was at the hall owned by the Gurdwara…and not in the Gurdwara Sahib itself.

    However, the rules are rules…and there is no meat or booze in a Gurdwara owned building…be it a Gurdwara Sahib…Hall…or shed to keep tools in.

    Go off these premises…and do whatever, but its not allowed on the premis.

    Thats Final.

    This place got caught doing what it shouldn’t…and as rough as it is putting on the web…It needs to be done to make sure… Committee’s don’t take the pee…and know what their remits are.

    Change the ownership of the Hall to an individual…and run it as a business…and even if you “donate” all profits to the Gurdwara Sahib….Thats FINE!… If its owned by Gurdwara Sahib… Don’t mess about and adhere to the rules!

    • Rules are rules yes, but stopping the party the way they did was silly. Like I said before they could have approached the committee before hand to stop it rather than make a massive show on the day.

      Also the story was very miss leading, it should have stated it was in the community centre…. the ward massala springs to mind.

  21. Will happily remove the ‘singh’ from my name and encourage others to do the same if this stupidity continues. When the next generation stops going to the temple and the coffers are bare it will be too late for you foolish, misguided, ignorant militants. Your palaces of bricks and mortar will crumble and your faith will be banished. Wake up, Sikhism needs to modernise and adapt. Alcohol,drugs and other intoxicants should not have been comsumed on the temple premises. But this fault lies with the committee not the event organsiers who booked the venue as a fitting community venue for an all inclusive celebration of oue being Indian. These functions have taken place at the premises ever since it opned. The latest fuss over interfaith marriages is an even bigger blunder by a cowardly minority who indoctrinate and stupify impressionable youths through untruths. Interfaith marraiages are not wrong. Who are we to dictate who should amrry who. True, even I wish that my children marry in my faith and even in my caste and I will try my best to promote this in their upbringing. But should they not, then am I to denounce them? No one is without sin and so perhaps we should first look at ourselves before we impose our beliefs on others. I donate to many Coventry temples in significant amounts but form this day forward will withdraw it all. The current extremisim and militancy has the potential to be the start of a slow lingering painful death for sikhism. We should promote positively all taht is good and include as many from all faiths and environments so that Sikhism can grow, enahnec and develop not be stuck in that archaic past with idiots reeling of generic teachings without putting them into life’s true context. Our faith is Sikh, our culture is Punjabi and our nation is India. All of these things make us what we are and not one in isolation can be deemed sufficient to define us. I am sure some smart ass will comment negatively but then that is life!

  22. The rich members and their champchas who they use because they want to be in the back had destroyed my family.We should stand up and try to save families and and thees gurdwara members to use these innocent woman to fulfill their certain desires to break a good family.Virginia beach Gurdwara is getting vorse.

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